Hey,
I’ve noticed our users jump on us and many other groups for a long while now. Some are nice and as such we respond nicely to them. On the other hand, you get people like this guy here (e-mail link removed) who should be (censored). Allow me to share with you what I’m talking about…
> hey
>
> i just wanted to point out that you should be more aware of your
> spelling in your translations, especially with c’s, s’s and z’s.
>
> for example, these words:
>
> NOT realise…realiZe
> NOT apologise…apologiZe
> NOT organising…organiZing
> NOT energise…energiZe
>
> you may need to keep a dictionary on you if english is not your first
> language. these do not apply, but sometimes words can be spelled
> differently by changing one letter.
>
> just pointing it out.
>
> -xxx
The above is an actual email from the person noted which shows how (censored) can be towards us for providing a FREE fansub.
We use British English. We have done so and will continue to do so as do most fansub groups out there. Just because we use an s instead of using a z doesn’t make our fansubs any less in quality and most fans barely notice it and even if they do it is simply blown off because they ‘realise’ that we are using British English.
(Censored paragraph)
Thanks,
– Silence.
Additional Information:
Just some additional spelling information for your general knowledge if you’re wondering about spelling differences between British and American spellings. Note that the large majority of countries in the world spell using the British system. American spellings are only used in the states, the Phillippines, Japan (they don’t even speak English though) and a handful of other countries associated with the states. Because I myself am not American, and neither is the Baka-Wolf owner, Leginag, we tend to spell it in the British spelling system because we were brought up spelling that way.
Here are a few examples of things which you might think are mistakes, but really aren’t, if you’re unsure of the differences.
– Programme vs Program. Programme = itenerary, schedule. Program = computer programs only.
– Colour, valour, armour, etc. Spelt with an additional ‘u’.
– Centre, litre, theatre, metre. Spelt with ‘re’ for all words of French origin.
– Gramme, tonne. Additional ‘me’/’ne’.
– Meter. Used for things like ‘parking meters’ only as opposed to the SI unit, metre.
– Enrol, fulfil, travel, cancel. Spelt with one ‘l’ in their plain form.
– Enrolling, travelled, cancelled. Spelt with two ‘l’s when in other forms.
– Storey. The number of floors, levels in a building.
– Catalogue, dialogue. Spelt with an additional ‘ue’.
– Spelt, learnt, leapt, dealt. These are often the prefered past tense forms instead of ending with ‘ed’ as they are pronounced that way.
– Defence. Spelt with a ‘c’ because it’s a noun and must follow the ‘c’ to the noun rule. E.g Advice, device as opposed to the verb form of advise and devise. And opposed to the adjective version also using an ‘s’ in defensive, advisable, etc.
– Aesthetics, Encyclopaedia, diarrhoea.
– Doughnuts.
Wow, that’s quite a list and that’s still hardly complete. Hope that’s helpful.
xess
P.S. Note, I no longer handle mail for m.3.3.w and passed this responsibility to silence a while back. Sometimes, handling the mail can be very stressful as I often get a lot of silly mail. It’s difficult to be tech support for non-paying customers, lol. Either way, I agree with Lonyo that this mail is not rude in any way, just plain ignorant. However, I thought that I’d take this opportunity to point out the differences in spelling and properly inform everyone that the spelling in True Tears and H2O will be using the British system.
Anyway, we’re always open to feedback and suggestions. However, I’d like to kindly ask mailers to do a bit of research on their own before contacting us. Obviously, we won’t spell something wrong 50 times in a row. Must be a reason behind it, right? Thank you again for your support.
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7:19 am on January 11th, 2008
LOL,maybe that poor guy didn’t learn about the original english… And i thought dictionary suppost to have both spelling as to differential it out to it is British / American English? The dictionary i got explaination for that, including with the American slang…
7:24 am on January 11th, 2008
What an idiot… O_O
7:47 am on January 11th, 2008
Dont really care for spelling mistakes so long its read-able ๐ And it seems this guy know waht word its, so why should this be a problem? And British English are in the end the most original english ๐
8:00 am on January 11th, 2008
That guy is just an idiot (probably a pissed Hikikomori). keep up the good work ^_^
8:21 am on January 11th, 2008
hey silence it doesnt matter what he says i understand youre fansub and like the colers evrything. i watch the anime and read subs but i dont care about british english or american english. you guys do a great job dont let it botter you.
8:26 am on January 11th, 2008
yep i don’t mind if it’s “s” or “z”
you are doing a great job
thanks
8:59 am on January 11th, 2008
Don’t mind guys like him. He’s probably from another fansub group which isn’t as popular as you’re, so he got mad. We all know that you’re doing a fast, good and FREE Fansub service and we are really grateful for it.
Good job
9:06 am on January 11th, 2008
Public bashings FTW~
9:23 am on January 11th, 2008
Well, you’ll always have guys like that. Ah, don’t bother with people like him. At least Holland is at you side, we only learn Brittish spelling. Which seems more natural to me anyway. About 75% of our programs are subtitled, so take it from a lifetime viewer of’em. You’re doing a great job. In fact, you’re my favo-u-rite fansubbing group atm.
9:24 am on January 11th, 2008
Fuck yeah, Silence. Let him REALISE that he’Z not the god of english!!! XD
9:25 am on January 11th, 2008
*British
And so i made a spelling mistake, well can’t have everything perfect.
9:31 am on January 11th, 2008
As Kannivalism sayd, we too only learn British English here in Denmark and we too got all our foreign television subbed. m33w are doing a great job ๐
9:48 am on January 11th, 2008
Lets bring back crucifixion as a special treat for that whiny SOB.
P.S.
I
9:48 am on January 11th, 2008
oopps meant to be “P.S. I LOVE M33W!!!”
9:56 am on January 11th, 2008
I’m confused. That message doesn’t seem rude at all. It may be a little ignorant, but it isn’t rude. In fact, only your response comes off as rude and, quite frankly, completely unprofessional. I have lost a lot of respect for you guys after reading this and hope you reflect upon this situation and handle things more professionally in the future.
10:01 am on January 11th, 2008
lol thanks, that made my day. i really think people should consider what they rant about before they mail in to fan groups, minor changes in spelling on words are to be expected due to regional accents and word play it doesnt make them any less valid than any other unless ofc it is totaly abv that the spelling has no meaning and thus incorrect.
10:15 am on January 11th, 2008
Silly twat, the British English spellings are the standard throughout most of the world. ‘Tis a shame The US of A decided to change them, and force it upon other nations. Keep up the good work m33w, you’re one my favourite fansub groups.
10:24 am on January 11th, 2008
Thanks for the lesson. I did not know any of that and I am grateful. In regards to what lonyo said I believe people need to be careful of how they use there voice in what they write. The original poster was abrupt in his pointing out of what he believed were mistakes. For example “NOT realisecrealiZe”. The poster could also have been more tactful with his choice of phrasing, as it was rude to suggest that a dictionary was necessary for the sub team.
P.S.
Thanks for all the hard work
10:28 am on January 11th, 2008
I tried to use B.E. once at my high school (I live in Puerto Rico, where US. E. is used), and my teacher asked me where did I learned such ‘bad misspellings’. I explained her but to no avail.
This was YEARS ago, but I remember it vividly. Still, keep it up Xess. You and your team’s effort to bring us quality subs is very appreciated.
11:14 am on January 11th, 2008
Man the message could not be rude like Lonyo from opinion 15 had said, but i’m sure after hundred of messages like those I won’t only be angrylike you man, I mean I would completely send him straight to hell while kiking his sorry As* not write a list of words an ignorant might have thought you have written wrongly. I’m from argentina, I’ve learned british and american english, and there is only one thing i can say, you guys do a great work , me and thousands of other people from other places can totally understand exactly what you translate. If he had paid for that it would be fine, but you guys do a free job and an excellent one. If he want subs without mistakes and in his own variation of language he can learn japanese and do the work himself or help you edit the subs instead of just babbling. Well that being said i will go to see true tears and find out what is that show about. Ohh I almost forget H2O had a good first episode I’m waiting for the second. Keep up the good work and don’t read that kind of nonsense.
12:00 pm on January 11th, 2008
I don’t think it’s right to complain about something given for free. One should be grateful and appreciate the effort put into all the shows you guys release. I think whoever complains should be banned from the baka wolf site and m33w.
12:09 pm on January 11th, 2008
Don’t many Americans think the world’s borders are the East & West coast? ๐
Jokes aside – although I have a clear preference for the British spelling I don’t really care if you use British or American, as long as you provide good encodes with text I understand. Which you do!
Keep the spirit up!
1:04 pm on January 11th, 2008
Yeah, typical american foisting his (or her) views on people who should know better. It may be stereotypical but the image portrayed by the media is the brutal reality of many american citizens, who are patriotic to a fault. Or so I’ve found, If you’re the lucky 5% not bound by the shackles of american stupidity I think you should give yourself a pat on the back ๐
1:13 pm on January 11th, 2008
The ironic part of this entire thing is the fact that I am an American and I was the one who called him on it. ๐
1:59 pm on January 11th, 2008
you guys should have some kind of auto-hack for stupid people and mess up their pc’s lol, cus some don’t know what the word free is…. and i can’t thank you enough for your work guys
2:04 pm on January 11th, 2008
lol..Americans… i wont say anymore than that
2:22 pm on January 11th, 2008
LAWLS….all I have to say that as long as you can read it, it’s fine. I really don’t understand why the person would rant about such a trivial thing. It’s only 1 letter and it pronounciation is the same in certain words. Why fuss about it? God, some people are picky…
2:28 pm on January 11th, 2008
Ey, not all americans are like that…
nwayz, that guys just another asshole.
dont mind and keep the good work up. ;p
2:40 pm on January 11th, 2008
What a typical comment (read: bash) thread.
The post was benign, the heads handled it. Usage of British English in favor of American English was clarified. True Tears was beautiful, Myself; Yourself was memorable. m.3.3.w/Baka-Wolf still rocks.
So why do we have all these politically motivated garbage lines like “Yeah, typical american foisting his (or her) views on people…”? Or the not-so-aptly put “lol..Americansc i wont say anymore than that”?
Who’s ignorant again?
2:44 pm on January 11th, 2008
There always has to be ONE Fly in the Oinment…..I hope this JackA** doesn’t screw up a good thing for everyone else.
I think you are doing a Fantasic Job. I am currently learning Japanese and I know that it is Awfully hard if not impossible in some cases to translate it directly.
Keep up the Super work and even though I can’t speak for everyone, I for one am Genuinely Gratful for the Fansubs you are so graciously providing to us ….
Feel free to forward my comment to any killjoy you think may need a good spanking.
Hoo RAH! for m.3.3.w !!
2:45 pm on January 11th, 2008
I agree, british english is the one I learnt in France.
However, the two spellings were given by the teachers, and changing Z by S doesn’t change the meaning or make the word become unread-able.
We may infere he’s an idiot ^^
3:02 pm on January 11th, 2008
I don’t mind using the British system as long they are readable. ๐
3:16 pm on January 11th, 2008
I agree with Lonyo. Unlike most of the comments, the mail does not seem rude to me, nor does his pointing out ‘mistakes’ using capitals (aww c’mon. This is rude only if you want to perceive as such). And while he was ceratinly mistaken, is it really the kind of mistake that should be punished that way? Someone here noted that even teachers make that mistake sometimes, although I agree this is not much of a point.
And opinions like “it’s for free so don’t complain” have been discussed many times over already, and I personally don’t agree with it. I believe everyone has the right to voice his honest opinion.
3:22 pm on January 11th, 2008
@Santa
i guess what makes m33w pissed off because he/she told them to use the dictionary next time for the correct spelling, that’s why =)
3:31 pm on January 11th, 2008
yeah, thanks guys. i try to point something out to someone for once without bashing his/her soul open and i STILL get trashed for my beliefs. i don’t work for a fansub company nor do i intend to. i just have a thing for having everything spelled right for me, is all. i guess i’ll have to put up with it, but you don’t have to f***ing trash me just because i pointed out an error in the translating.
3:33 pm on January 11th, 2008
Ach, I get it all the time on the internet… some smartass saying that I’ve mis-spelt a word when in actual fact I haven’t. Being Scottish I use the (Check: Original) British-English spellings.
Defence/Defense being something that I get corrected with on a regular basis. Personally, for Defence and other similar words, I find no point in it ending in “E” if you’re just going to swap the “C” with an “S”, after all, the “E” there is what changes the simple “C” into an “S” in the first place.
Sorry if it seemed whiny, I saw an Oppurtunity and I seized it ^^
3:46 pm on January 11th, 2008
@ 35….
That’s the whole point of this message.. there’s no ‘error’ in the translations. It’s just not American English…
3:55 pm on January 11th, 2008
so american english is a bad thing?
3:58 pm on January 11th, 2008
I So Support You Guyz ^^,
I Come From A British School And Moved To CA Later… So Im Familiar With Both So Im Not That Bothered With It. Tho I Prefer “S” Instead Of “Z”. Dunno Why But “S” Looks Alot More Cuter ^^”
4:06 pm on January 11th, 2008
Man, what’s with all the America hate? So we spell stuff differently… it’s not like those of us growing up here chose to learn American English over British English, just as those of you growing up in other countries did not chose to learn British English over American English. Just because one guy didn’t know of the differences between the languages and pointed it out doesn’t justify sweeping generalizations of Americans being stupid.
And most of the bashing directed towards him is also unnecessary. He was wrong, and that’s all there should be to it. Of course, reading his latest comments will make me regret saying this (using different spellings does NOT count as having different “beliefs”) but whatever.
In conclusion, let’s just all be friends, m’kay?
4:10 pm on January 11th, 2008
Where did I say American English is bad? I just prefer Brittish English myself, as I’ve learned that in school.
And I agree with:
In conclusion, letfs just all be friends, mfkay?
๐
4:21 pm on January 11th, 2008
listen, can’t we just put this whole thing behind us? i mean, we’re getting worked up over one single comment gone wrong. i love m.3.3.w. it’s my favorite translator. i’ve been watching almost everything it’s come out with since myself ; yourself. sure, i admit it: i’m an american, and i’m stupid, and i can’t spell right, and blah blah blah…what else you want from a kid with asperger’s?
so how ’bout it? truce?
4:25 pm on January 11th, 2008
I’m American but I really don’t care. That guy was just an asshole. I knew from when I first saw ‘mum’ instead of ‘mom’ it was British English. My dad travels a lot so I’ve learned things from him since I was a kid. I also had a lot of British books for school. So great job m.3.3.w, keep it up. :3
4:51 pm on January 11th, 2008
Honestly, most American’s truly can not speak English. So I don’t quite see the problem…
4:52 pm on January 11th, 2008
I enjoyed your guys’ fansub of Myself;Yourself and I agree with the others that this person was either being a prat or else he just didn’t realize that there are people in this world who don’t speak American English, and that “correctness” is relative.
Still, I’m not writing in reply to that so much as to this quote which rubbed me the wrong way: “We use British English. We have done so and will continue to do so as do most fansub groups out there.”
First of all, this kind of claim is probably best avoided. Without the proper data to back up the claim (and such data would be a chore to provide), it’s not much better than trolling.
Second, in the four years I’ve watched English-subbed anime, I’ve seen very few groups stationed in the UK and even fewer who use British English over American English. This isn’t because one is better than the other, etc. etc., that’s not my point. My point is, I question the validity of the claim being made here, the claim that British English is “the English of choice for most fansub groups.” I think a quick look around the ‘net would suggest otherwise.
And finally — people who claim British English is “more correct” than American English are just as bad as the Americans who do the opposite. Both sublanguages have made spelling and grammatical deviations since the late 1600s, so it’s not like British English is any closer to the original “English English” than is American English. Both forms are deviants, and it’s up to the speaker to decide which he prefers.
Sorry if this is tl;dr, but you guys said you wanted honest feedback, so here it is. (1) I love your subs, (2) the guy who wrote you in was naive or trying to aggravate you, but (3) you could have handled it a little better instead of (by my observations, falsely) claiming that British English is what most fansubs use and trying to legitimize your position that way. It should have been good enough to tell him, “It’s our fansub group and we’ll fansub things as we see fit. Thank you for your concerns, though.”
5:09 pm on January 11th, 2008
Wow, such fun drama. Well, personally, I couldn’t really care much less about that e-mail. Doesn’t bother me at all. It’s actually kinda funny. However, as for Silence, receiving a mail like this every week can quickly build up the stress levels. At least it makes the site more fun to read?
5:14 pm on January 11th, 2008
Let me explain something. I am an American. I’m not exactly PROUD of my country, or the random fools that are in it. I’m not out to bash the country I was born and raised in. My only issue was the repeating issue of having people come to us with these error reports noting every single British English spelling error is an error. It’s not just this single person, I simply used him as an example due to yes, how rude he was.
> you may need to keep a dictionary on you if english is not your first
> language. these do not apply, but sometimes words can be spelled
> differently by changing one letter.
That is the rude comment in the email. To tell us to have a dictionary on hand was simply uncalled for. I see it every other week to a weekly basis. Sometimes we’re lucky and people just don’t say anything and it’s nice.
I personally use American English. I, when acting as an editor on project _______ deal with the British English and have had several creative battles with our TLer xess. Still, we leave the British English in there because that is just what we provide and it is the native English that our key staff members use.
If you were really bothered by this, then you were looking more deeply into this matter than I was and I’ve been accused of seriously taking this way too far. It’s not exactly a matter of this one incident. As I said, this is fueled by this being an ongoing issue for this group.
My hopes are this and simply this: I want this to serve as a message to those who feel we’re repeating the same “mistakes” and “errors” in each and every release we do using British English. I ask for understanding and for everyone to simply accept that this is what we offer, we offer speed and quality in our releases with encoding that’ll make your girlfriends giggle with dirty thoughts.
Going to leave it at that and move on to less frustrating things. Like hentai. HENTAI FTW! :X!
5:18 pm on January 11th, 2008
Learned quite a bit for this post… but it’s true most Americans can’t speak English very well so it’s not like it really matters. On another note thank you for providing free fansubs!
5:18 pm on January 11th, 2008
Haha, well thats was fun to read. I noticed a few of those differences compared to the american English and my guess was right (that you guys use the British English). But seriously, you guys could even write double “s” or “z” and people with common sense (which im sure most here have) will get the idea of the meant word, hehe. Keep the awesome job guys, love ya (^0^)/
5:26 pm on January 11th, 2008
i didn’t ever mean that comment to be offensive. i was just giving a point of advice to help prevent future misspells.
5:38 pm on January 11th, 2008
I don’t see what the big deal about a few words spelled differently or misspelled. It is not like it matters at all.
Bcaeuse our bairn can sitll raed it because it only sees the first and last letters of a word and fills in the blank just like in the beginning of this sentence. I wish I could find the original Harvard study but google is failing me right now.
5:39 pm on January 11th, 2008
tldr on all those comments.
That being said here is my 2 cents. I must apologise/apologize, I didnt even realize/realise…. yeah i could go on like that but too much hassle ๐
I dont give a shit which spellings you use, you guys do a great job at a fast pace with high quality releases, thats the main thing to me, not some pissy little spelling differences
Keep up the good work
5:49 pm on January 11th, 2008
Yep, thank you for you feedback and concern regarding the spelling. But worry not, we won’t repeat the same mistake so consitently over so many episodes. (At least I sure hope not! lol) I’m sorry that you’re the lucky person who got his e-mail chosen after the rest was overlooked.
I am capable of spelling in both varities, and the subbing program we use contains dictionaries for both varities too. It just so happens that I conciously chose to use British spellings at first and it has just been that way ever since.
Himesama-goyoujin and Rosario + Vampire(I think) uses the American variety. So, it just depends on who happens to be TLing or editing the projects.
5:56 pm on January 11th, 2008
If you want me to take care of those emails I will. It’s fun to bash back at them. I do not know why he/she is trying to correct you because he still understood what it was trying to say and that is all that matters.
5:56 pm on January 11th, 2008
you know what…maybe i should leave. however i just wanted to make sure my point got across and not to hurt anyone and maybe get it fixed. although i realize what i’ve done made a lot of boiling water and excess teeth grinding and hissing, i am cool with these subs, ok? aside from the spelling, they’re pretty accurate (about 98.9%), and that’s good enough for me, i guess. i just have asperger’s and all, so i kinda have the urges to make sure everything is right, and nothing is crooked, and nothing is wrong. besides, i did not KNOW this was a british subs as i get most of my subs from american countries seeing as america is about the second largest importer of anime on the planet, so i was unaware of any cultural differences in the first place. and should i be able to sit down to learn japanese i will consider coming back asking m.3.3.w to let me help out from time to time. so therefore i shall leave this board and never come back to this website except to see if releases have been made. thus, sorry for all of this trouble, and goodbye.
6:46 pm on January 11th, 2008
This argument, though most people would think that they’re right & the other side is wrong, should just be treated as a matter of preference. Just because one version is the standard in one area, doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s wrong or insignificant. I personally prefer American English (less u’s, less paper, less trees cut down ->good 4 the environment LOL), but that’s just because that’s what I’ve grown accustomed to. (I’m not American, BTW) There’s no need to bash one vs the other. Neither do I see the point in bugging m33w about choosing British English because, again, that’s what they’ve grown up with.
If people are so truly irked by the British spelling style, then:
1) wait for the h264 v
2) demux (remove) the subtitles using mkvextract
3) open using notepad
4) cut & paste to check for spelling with a spell checking program
5) cut & paste edited text & save subtitle files
6) remux (add) the subtitles using mkvmerge
Now that you know the process of tweaking subtitles, I hope people get a sense of appreciation as to how complicated just a small portion of the process of fansubbing really is since it doesn’t even include translating, timing, typesetting, etc.
m33w has been very good at taking constructive criticism compared to other fansubs that would bite the heads off or ban people for just pointing a correction or bugging for the next episode. Just be respectful when asking for corrections & leave m33w to what they do best: fansubbing in a quick & efficient way. They have enough problems to deal with & complain about something you can do yourself isn’t helping.
“Don’t beg for things. Do it yourself, or else you won’t get anything.” Eureka Seven quote for the anal
8:39 pm on January 11th, 2008
Man how about to let people known in the firt part of the episode that it will be translated in British english so that they know which dictionary to use. Now that I think about the whole matter, m.3.3.w is at fault for not making that clear.
Now, I like to tell if anyone who hasen’t realised it yet that I’m only making a joke (just in case people don’t get the joke, this is translated from spanish so maybe something was lost in the translation). m.3.3.w. you guys keep the good work and I’m going to see the new episode of H2O with the british encyclopedia at hand in case I don’t get it. See ya and good work.
9:28 pm on January 11th, 2008
omg so all those Mistakes in my english exam are Lies!! my frenglish was acceptable !
9:52 pm on January 11th, 2008
This is why I always thought there should be an IQ requirement in order to download subbed anime.
Honestly, even if there MIGHT be a few mistakes, I couldn’t care less. I mean, you do an awesome job, choose always the best anime and you work hard. I respect m33w fansubs more than any other fansub.
Just forget about this fucktard, we all love you ๐
PS: Honestly I think you should make people register and then pass an IQ test before they can activate their login ID and stuff, that would be pretty funny.
/joke
I’m out. Thanks for the awesome job and I’ll stop writing stuff that has no relevance to the topic now.
10:27 pm on January 11th, 2008
>but sometimes words can be spelled
> differently by changing one letter.
>
……. Duh? Anyway, I barely noticed the difference as an American, the only one I noticed was mum, and I thought that that was a translation choice to mean a more loving tone added to a word…..
And yay for patting myself on my back. >.
10:29 pm on January 11th, 2008
OMG JUST BAN THE GUYS IP!!!
10:40 pm on January 11th, 2008
He isn’t bad, and only said to get the dictionary as an aid to an ESL person….. He is just american, we get a certain amount of leeway, or else you will get nukes and burger king. You don’t want burger king, now do you?
Anyway, I would be sad to see this guy go truthfully, no matter how much I suspect that the …. was not the original sender of the email……
11:05 pm on January 11th, 2008
lol !! ^_^ nice thread… its my first post here and i don’t make comments a lot but this is really interesting ^_^
first of all, I’m not picking sides here (if there are any)
second, the person who emailed this doesn’t deserve to be bashed this much. maybe that person didn’t think the email would’ve been offensive because to him maybe it doesn’t look like it. that person offended someone, yes, but it wasn’t exactly intensional. maybe if the person would just say sorry then the whole thing would be sort out.
third, for the person who emailed this, just try to understand that this thread was made to serve as a reminder for other people who does the same thing. maybe you do not deserve this but just take it as some bad luck that you had to be picked as the example and leave it at that. don’t mind the other bashings here, just as long as you clear things up with Silence everything would be ok.
fourth, Silence, it might be hard because of the other emails and all but try to give the person a little more slack. it wasn’t intentional anyway.
lastly, people on this thread, its not bad to give honest opinions but please try to understand both sides before making judgment. neither of them is at fault here and i think its only because of the excessive bashing and “uncalled for” comments that this is becoming a big issue.
peace to everybody !! ^_^ V
11:31 pm on January 11th, 2008
Dude seriously, the guy was trying to help m33w out by possibly correcting mistakes to make the overall quality of the subs better. he just made a mistake and did not realize it was a different version of english is what was used. he did not deserve to be bashed at this magnitude or even at all.
making a thread like this was reasonable to make people aware that it was not a mistake, but others who bashed the dude for being stupid because he’s american was just uncalled for. (maybe youre the ones who are stupid and did not understand that he was just trying to help out)
12:14 am on January 12th, 2008
the quality of the subs here has been pretty consistent, and of a decent level, so this guy can take a flying leap. I’m an American, and am constantly annoyed how people, software, etc frown upon the use of brittish English spelling. there are many many words that I honestly prefer spelling the non-american way.
but that’s not to say that I’m forgiving of spelling or grammar. using “there” in place of “their” or “they’re” makes me want to physically hurt someone. but using a valid spelling of a work of one of the many many versions of english dialects doesn’t bother me at all. (english is easily as confusing as japanese or spanish in their many dialects, if not moreso.)
12:41 am on January 12th, 2008
“OMG m.3.3.w riunddee by animes cuz OMG DEY SBELLeD a word lyke a briTTizh perzon!!1!one!!1!”
-_-
Seriously, nobody should care this much about sub spelling. (For the 2 people who didn’t get it yet, the message above in quotes is a joke).
3:23 am on January 12th, 2008
lol
doesn’t matter how the spelling is, if its spelt with 1 letter off and you can understand it who cares.
6:17 am on January 12th, 2008
One thing I’ve noticed that no fansubbing group actually does is using “If I were ” instead of “If I was “.
Your fansubs are some of the most accurate around, especially if you take into account the time it takes you to release them, so keep up the good job. (b’_’)b
6:38 am on January 12th, 2008
OMFG, I can’t believe someone so dumb, as to not recognize that you are not misspelling, can actually act like they are so damn smart. Even if those were spelling mistakes that person should still keep his/her complaints to his/her-self. Morons like that person should be going around correcting people. It’s kinda pathetic and very annoying. You guys are awesome by the way. Thanks for everything.
7:30 am on January 12th, 2008
Now that you mention it I see the difference.
I hardly notice it because I’m confronted with both spellings all the time.
In school we learned the Britisch spelling(I’m from belgium) and on the internet allot of the time US spelling is used or even in fansubs or in TV shows.
Personally I don’t care even if there are small spelling or grammar mistakes. English isn’t my first language anyway and, it’s a fansub!, as long as the meaning of what was originally said is the same…, then it doesn’t matter for me.
If I wanted HQ I would buy it once licenced(I’m a student, so don’t have the $$). I’m very happy groups like this exists.
Keep up the good work and don’t let ignorant or enoying ppl get to you!
/Crazy
9:50 am on January 12th, 2008
I always felt that people who can’t even spell “I” correctly have no business correcting other people.
10:37 am on January 12th, 2008
We know that the US verson of english comes from people who could bearly spell for example the uk ver of colour, and the US way is color, the reason for this is because the US people spell it the way it sounds silly yanks complain about everything,
Keep up the HQ fansubs your producing thanks people
1:10 pm on January 12th, 2008
I myself respect all people, and languages equally. Though I do hate the people that act arrogant like this person.
“We know that the US verson of english comes from people who could bearly spell for example the uk ver of colour, and the US way is color, the reason for this is because the US people spell it the way it sounds silly yanks complain about everything”
Get over yourself. We left Brittan long ago, and over the years our language changed. As do most languages if something similar happens.
Oh and just so you know. You were bash us Americans for not being able to spell. I just have to laugh. Here are a few misspelled words in your post.
verson is actually version.
bearly is actually barely.
So please don’t say such arrogant things to people is you are just as bad. Also I would have to say m.3.3.w FTW!!
-Chris
P.S. I am not meaning to bash any country or language with this post. That guy just pissed me off.
1:13 pm on January 12th, 2008
See even I can screw up. I noticed a misspelling in my post.
“So please donft say such arrogant things to people is you are just as bad.” it should actually be,”if you are just as bad.” lol
Later guys
2:26 pm on January 12th, 2008
Jesus, that was a complete dick. This is a free service – take what you get. I have been watching m33w releases since school days, and I have to say they are one of the best fansubs out there.
Your work is excellent, and as for the spelling, I really don’t care if the occasional word is misspelled, its a free service, which one I am ever so thankful that you provide (and I am sure that this little rant will have many spelling and grammar mistakes, like I care, its not a report I am handing in to work.)
I am trying not to pick sides, I am Canadian by the way, and we have a mix of British and American way of spelling. What I am really trying to say is this is a free service, if you do not like the way they are doing things, go somewhere else (or sub it yourself)
But picking on America just because of this one person’s opinion is wrong in my opinion. Perhaps m33w needs to be like dattebayo and just start banning people left and right – they seem to be very nice when I see all the when is the next episode blah blah blah crap in the chat.
Just be thankful that m33w has super fast releases, keep up the good work guys!
2:39 pm on January 12th, 2008
Is it inappropriate for me to laughing my ass off right now? =P
Seriously, I never noticed anything he said until you posted this and even then I don’t give a fuck. In fact, even though I’m American, I often alternate between realize and realise when I’m typing and the same goes for things like cancelled and canceled.
2:44 pm on January 12th, 2008
I just realised that I speak British English even though I’m 100% American… You learn something new every day.
To be honest, British English is a lot easier to read, and it looks a lot nicer.
Great work with H2O by the way, and I agree with MidnightTide =)
6:18 pm on January 12th, 2008
lol any mistakes are fine long as its readable, sometimes its even funny lol.
lol in one of the giniro olynssis episodes when tia wanted the tokito main guy to get into the silver machine they translated it as her saying “Koichi, come in me” >.>
6:33 pm on January 12th, 2008
ah, nice… Anyway, you guys better lock the thread before it becomes a debate.
And keep those subs coming, youre really doing a great job. English or American, as long as its not Engrish its fine by me ๐
6:39 pm on January 12th, 2008
who cares if some spellings are wrong
point to note:
73.Cúran said c
See even he misunderstood about spelling mistakes in other languages but is full of himself at the same time
so i willmake myself clear:
yanks complain about everything, JUST STOP IT ALREADY
6:40 pm on January 12th, 2008
I agree with point
79. Mero said…
11:38 pm on January 12th, 2008
I’m English and I personally don’t care which version is used … It’s still perfectly understandable and that’s all that matters. Also I don’t hate on Americans at all, we fight wars together ffs ๐
Keep up the good work guys!
3:21 am on January 13th, 2008
“cancel” in American spelling and British spelling are the same.
4:44 am on January 13th, 2008
Oh yeah, “Spelt, learnt, leapt, dealt” in my area Washington State (west coast) We use Spelt and Spelled (unless talking about spelt the fish), leaped and leapt, never hear any one native to the area say dealed, always dealt, and learned is both said and spelled learned.
11:21 am on January 13th, 2008
if the kid doesn’t like the way you fansub for free then he can always use the hard way of learning jap himself lol if i don’t like someone’s way of doing things then i don’t go bitchin to em about it i just learn the stuff and ignore em ^^;
12:21 pm on January 13th, 2008
@83
Yeah, it was to connect to the next one which shows that cancelled, cancelling, etc. has 2 l’s in the British version.
3:16 pm on January 13th, 2008
that moroan need’s to go f*** hymself….
2:36 am on January 15th, 2008
Oo this guy is smart… He knows what to say…
Yeah Right ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
Nice Job m33w ๐
This is starting to become one of my favorite fansub groups =3
7:15 am on January 15th, 2008
i’m from the Philippines, we use American English (including spelling) in most cases, but i don’t mind the British spelling… as long as i understand what guy#1 screamed before he chopped guy#2’s head off, it’s all well and good…
there’s nothing wrong with mailing m33w and telling them about what you think was a mistake (even when it’s not), but that dictionary comment was downright insulting.
i’d just like to stress the second sentence of the second paragraph (if we count “Hey,” as the first paragraph)…
8:54 pm on January 15th, 2008
wow… what an idiot… it’s a free fansub and he’s complaining about spelling >.> i mean… you’d think someone would learn to be grateful for having fansubs in the first place…
6:54 pm on January 17th, 2008
LOL! maybe that person who email that kind of misconjunction doesn’t know the difference of BritEng and AmerEng. Weehheehehehehe. For more info, go to Wikipedia, and search for it. goodness… –;
So meaning, that when I sometimes use favourite rather favorite, I’d be wrong? LOL!
8:17 pm on January 17th, 2008
Ignorance? You guys are too nice, haha
He’s just another “average” American, haha
[No offense to the 90% of Americans with an IQ over 5 =P ]
12:40 am on January 18th, 2008
I don’t really understand why all the American hatred is amusing. I know what kind of reputation my country of origin has and the general perception of our current government, but if it’s alright with everyone I’d like to take a moment to just say ‘ouch’ for being called a ‘silly yank’, ‘arrogant’, ‘unintelligent’, and similar insults. It might seem funny at the time to take this e-mail and construe it as the attitude of 260 million people, but there are some of us, including myself, who feel hurt and stepped upon for being misconceived and assumed to be that way.
I would hope that in the time we live in, that everyone in the world would have the wisdom to look past where someone is born as a method of judging what their capabilities are and who they are inside. I am an American, but I am not stupid, I am not arrogant, and I am not an elitist.
5:42 am on January 18th, 2008
love it..me from Malaysian..like british
6:00 pm on January 20th, 2008
try living in canada yeesh you read so many american/candian articles that both spellings should just be the official way to spell
11:53 am on January 21st, 2008
I can understand why you guys are mad.
Yet I don’t think that making a whole news post about american/bristish spelling really does anyone justice. It just creates all this useless american hate.
Bottom line is that you guys make quality fansubs and it doesn’t matter to me which kind of spelling you use. I’m japanese and your translations are pretty spot-on. Please don’t get your head in a mega-twist and suddenly bash on american spelling even if some ignorant loser is probably (most likely) is from the USA.
11:56 am on January 21st, 2008
6:52 pm on January 22nd, 2008
suitscase!!!!! LOL!