Let me get a few things straight. We are [BakaWolf-m.​3.​3.​w]. [m.3.0.w] is a troll sub made by tun. I really don’t know why people don’t notice the different tags.

There are those who don’t really understand the reason behind all the red text in the troll itakiss release. Okay, here’s the story. Last week, our translation checker, asagao, was having exams. He was not available for work. Thus, I (xess) released an unchecked script for the benefit of the impatient ones. However, some people thought that it might be clever to release my bad script on places like Crunchyroll. Personally, I don’t mind very much. I even make sure fonts are large enough to be viewable at low res. But some others in the group didn’t take too kindly to it.

So, tun decided to hardcode the pre-release script for ep 11 as a joke. Since we assume people who watch Crunchyroll don’t really care about the video quality and such, we assume they won’t mind the red text. The red text isn’t stuff we made up either. They’re real comments which we actually received here on this website.

Though it was a little mean, it did bring out the true colours of some of the leechers. One had the nerve to blame us for wasting 170MB of his bandwidth for downloading a troll sub. Wow, seriously? If you wanted a preview, you could have just gone to IRC, download the first 20MB from a bot and watch. I’m sorry if you were not aware that you could do that. And why blame us? Why not blame your ISP for being crap by setting a bandwidth cap? Or why not blame your government for not having a better broadband policy? Like one of the other users said, it was your choice to download all 170MB of a troll sub.

Either way, S-A 10 and Itakiss 11 should be out soon enough. Our TSer (ThaEagle) was busy this week. But everything is almost ready. Sorry for not being as fast as we normally were.

p.s. @AngelTears98: We do not claim copyright to any of the translations here. We have no rights to any of the works here. We would like to believe they are, but the reality is that it isn’t and people are free to do anything they want with the stuff they download here. However, we would rather not have pre-release stuff encoded and released because it contains mistakes. This is for the benefit of the viewers. And tun’s post below for itakiss 11 wasn’t an apology. It’s sarcasm.

Lastly, we don’t want stuff here uploaded to Veoh because I think we shouldn’t support a site which bans over 80% of the world.

34 Comments

  1. iPwnd
    11:50 pm on June 14th, 2008

    Woooo first comment… and only one thing 2 say to that guy who ‘wasted’ his bandwith

    ZOMG OWNED!!!

  2. Jabba
    11:53 pm on June 14th, 2008

    mmm just dont put the script up for DL next time. that caused all this crap. it doesnt matter if it’s 2-3 weeks late, just keep up the good work.

  3. Yitza
    11:53 pm on June 14th, 2008

    Clearly, some ppl just cant take a joke. It was 170mb well spend imo.

    Keep up the good work guys.

  4. jessicaa
    12:00 am on June 15th, 2008

    gosh, nobody forced them to download, right?
    so KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
    ^~^

  5. asagao
    12:14 am on June 15th, 2008

    Hmm, well, the one thing that I *personally* thought was unacceptable about the Itazura na Kiss 10 encode on Crunchyroll was that the person was putting an unfinished product on a streaming site. People are going to watch that in the future [edit: looks like the video has been removed from the site], thinking it’s a quality product, and will be disgusted — well, xess is a great translator, so they won’t be disgusted; but the product was meant for the type of people who watch Chihiro Subs (nothing against them either, I like their sense of humor) for Code Geass because they can’t wait a few hours for gg or Eclipse.

    It’s more or less inevitable for fansubs to end up on streaming sites, and I don’t have any strong feelings either way on that, normally — people are free to choose low quality video if they want — but I wish they’d at least give credit to the fansub group (if not a link to the group’s IRC channel or website). This ItaKiss incident was special in that the person released something that was not meant to reflect our group’s complete effort.

    (by the way, I am on dial-up, and I still download full episodes — none of this streaming nonsense. If the guy who downloaded the episode and then complained about us wasting his bandwidth wasn’t on 56k or worse, he has no good reason to complain)

  6. tripledouble
    12:25 am on June 15th, 2008

    Keep doing it how you have always done it, your subs are good quality and released in a timely fashion. Complainers can stfu.

  7. Aurelius
    1:46 am on June 15th, 2008

    Well said, leechers finally show their true nature. Release on time and you’ll never hear them but get some delays and tears overflow the site.

    True the .ass was released to give some people their early shot of anime but that does not give people the right to put their name on it. Even if the guy who did it apologised.

    Then some other guy/girl uploaded it even. Which was follow by Tun’s trolls release. If people(leechers) could actually be bothered to read the site instead of “omg they released wtf must download now!!” they would have known what was going on.

    That said, some people can’t even take a joke and Xess is totally right that you were the person to download it and they din’t waste your bandwith since you couln’t even be arsed to check it.

    Fansubbing is free and they do it for us people, don’t go flame them just because they respond to things they don’t want or like. Be a bit more grateful to the people who sub this for you and make it possible that you can watch your anime.

    So stop complaining or just stop watching, just making a fool out of yourself.

    My 2cents about this.

  8. Tidus
    1:53 am on June 15th, 2008

    Lol I found your troll sub very funny and it wasn’t a waste of 170MB at all 😀

    It was very original 😀

  9. Goku
    1:59 am on June 15th, 2008

    only 1 thing to say. ppl do not force you to download stuff, its your own choice. so just stop bitching about it.

  10. Mother
    2:46 am on June 15th, 2008

    I can take a joke and I understand that when your in your age group this is very funny, but my daugher who is 12 years old don’t understand this and was very sad that she thought that Itazura na Kiss 11 had been realeased when it really hasn’t. She has little to enjoy due to sickness and this is one of her favorite things as her big brother showed her the anime world and now I too watch it with her and try to explain the english words she don’t understand. Even if she sometimes is better at it than me.

    No hard feelings but just a reminder that it’s people outwhere who do not understand this kind of things.

    Keep up your good work
    Appreciating mother in the north europe

  11. millisa
    3:02 am on June 15th, 2008

    Personally I find it unbelievable you guys have to apologize this hard at all. You do the work, give us leechers all the pleasure, and this is the thanks?
    I can’t believe what I am reading in the last two posts, and I am grateful you still are willing to do this for us fans.

    Thank you for your patience with the thickheaded and stupid.

  12. Anime_Freak317
    3:24 am on June 15th, 2008

    I agree with you. Leechers should not complain. They should have the curtousy to keep the files up on their torrent programs for others to enjoy, otherwise they have no room for complaints.

    You guys, like many others, are giving us anime FREaKs a chance to see episodes for free with subtext. Something I enjoy. I always leave my dl’s up until I have 2 discops, or it’s been over a month. Even then, if I have a series I thoroughly(sp?) enjoy, I’ll keep it up longer since I KNOW others will enjoy it too.

    Thank you for all that you do.

  13. xess
    4:15 am on June 15th, 2008

    @mother

    This is the unfortunate consequence of all the events leading up to this. I guess it’s also our own fault that we’ve never released later than a day or two for any of or primary releases for nearly nine months. People simply believe that it’s impossible for us to release late or something.

    Unfortunately, the past two weeks has been busy for the other staff members, but not myself. Some people have showed ingenuity to actually watch the m30w episode by ripping the subs out using an OCR (there’s actually a link in the comments on the itakiss 11 post) or overlapping a clean raw over the red text while leaving the bottom subs visible. We’re just making things a little more challenging for this episode.

    The m30w script is actually about 97% correct or so it’s very watchable if you’re desperate. Some others just watch it with the red text… though I have no idea why anyone would want to do that…

    Hopefully, stuff will be done in a more timely manner next week.

    And, hmm, I never really expected primary school children to watch our subs. However, problem is, I don’t expect them to read this website, as we do include a lot of information pertaining to delays and official releases. Those who do not follow the website will likely get trolled as they won’t know the difference between m33w and m30w.

  14. To the bakawolf-m.3.3.w team:
    I know you guys were being extra nice by releasing that pre-release script of Itazura ep 10. As usual there are always some that will take advantage of your generosity. I think you learn a valuable lesson here. Yeah, I saw tun’s humor to release the troll sub as a retaliation against whoever posted your script crunchyroll or other sites. But in the back in my mind I thought that some would complain and would not see it as funny. I did, I knew the moment I started the torrent download what I was getting. I wanted to check out the red text or what I know call Tun’s “Ode to Crunchyroll.”

    As far as those leechers that complained, to put it as nicely as possible… frak them. You never have to apologize to no one for anything you guys release. After all, you are doing this in your own time(outside of school or work) for no profit. I think this the key point that some people don’t get
    at all.

    You guys keep up the work on your future releases and know that most of us are supporting and thankful that you continue doing this again on your own free time.

    Sirynx – semi-retired fansubber
    SAK Anime Group

  15. someone
    4:39 am on June 15th, 2008

    kinda should say sry, like people waste time downloading the video because they want to watch.(also dattebayo does stuff like that and its quite annoying) like yeah sure, i dont care about the time delay thing, since u got other committments, just tricking people is annoying

  16. xess
    4:48 am on June 15th, 2008

    That’s the part people don’t get. People who read this site will know that m30w is a troll sub. Unlike DB we clearly(sortove) label the troll releases as trolls. People with limited bandwidth can make an informed choice. Or they can just go to IRC and get an incomplete download to sample. Or they can just come here and read the mountain of flames. And like I said, you can get around the red text problem with some ingenuity.

  17. Itadakimasu!
    5:03 am on June 15th, 2008

    Look guys this has probably been said before but I totally support your attitude. Beggars can’t be choosers. As far as we are all concerned, you’ve put in the work … the only right we have is to be grateful that you’ve done so. So frak these leechers who have no sense of decency. They’re a stain on the anime viewing community.

  18. Gredunza
    7:33 am on June 15th, 2008

    Don’t take it personal, guys. Some people are just losers. Law of nature.
    You guys just keep up the good work and ignore the bad seeds of the world. Know that us decent folk are behind you and that your efforts are appreciated.

  19. flameking
    8:29 am on June 15th, 2008

    they had it coming all the way. leechers should at least understand the pain it is to sub an episode. I tried it once, it was painful even after all the translations. subbing is done for free with legal issues, not to mention it is very time consuming. I am also writing exams right now and i know there is no time to study let alone sub episodes for fags who abuse the right. go xess!!

  20. someone
    9:00 am on June 15th, 2008

    lol, thanks xess for the hard work anyway 😀

  21. I don’t want to put hard feeling on this but I’ll accept it as a joke.

    Well, as of now, I understand you guys why did you do it. I really respect and honored your big efforts to share the series to us.

    That’s all and thank you for your hard work! 🙂

  22. Mijare
    9:24 am on June 15th, 2008

    @ Mother:

    I had to re-read your daughters age twice. She’s twelve. Twelve. Not six. In the school system today, she has already had a few boyfriends and been making out with a few of them, or has friends that have. So I beg the question: how does she not know what a practical joke is? Kids are not stupid. They’re also a lot more mature today than they used to be. Which leads me to say…

    @ xess

    I winced at the primary school remark. No, really. Most of this generation has grown up with high-information technology, BT, and Grand Theft Auto. I actually hope that they’re watching Itazura and Special A. It’s better than what they could be doing.

    I saw the m.3.0.w. tag, quirked an eyebrow at it and downloaded it. I then proceeded to laugh. Yea, it was a troll release. Who cares? Sometimes, in a situation like that, one release is all it takes to change the world – or in this case, relieve enough stress to keep from attacking someone. Your subs are just fine. The joke was perfect.

    Keep it up, guys!

  23. xess
    9:34 am on June 15th, 2008

    @mijare

    Well, I was thinking young kids would simply download warez and play WoW or something. But, I really do doubt that many spend their time reading this blog and such. I also dunno how appealing fansubs are to young children.

  24. Kitten
    12:00 pm on June 15th, 2008

    JUST KEEP UP WITH A GOOD WORK ^^

  25. Arntor
    1:22 pm on June 15th, 2008

    Somemight misinterpreted my comment that I didnt found the last release funny. I was fully aware it being a troll but was expecting something more humoristic.
    Subtites with weir comical conversations in it of sharp remarks or something. Just a red text over the episode was a disappoinment with what I was expecting. Nothing more, nothing less.

    @Mijare
    Well, that was a quite unnessacary rude Neanderthaler remark versus a caring mother. Never got a social upbringing did you?

  26. @Xess
    Aww..D: That’s soo mean.
    I watched it whole…(coz didn’t watch the raw) and just coz I’m an idiot and a huge otaku who’d watch anything as long as I can still read it xD

    True I’d watch bad quality videos(even if they hurt my eyes), but if I were able to find them easily to download, I WOULD go and download. :’p
    But of course IF the video I’m looking for isn’t found ANYWHERE, I’d stick with the bad quality even if it was killing me. xD

    Haha! The one who complained about his 170MB bandwidth wasted by you guys…oh man! I know who that was. xD
    And the one who said it’s his own fault for downloading the whole epi himself, was me. Wasn’t it? xD
    I was pissed and felt like being sarcastic and said all those, but seriously…no one forced him and yet he blames you guys. D: What is HIS problem? xD

    Anyways..just keep up the GREAT WORK [m33w-BakaWolf], be supportin’ you until the end of time. ;’p

  27. ramen
    11:44 pm on June 15th, 2008

    r u guys ganna sub itazura na kiss for ever and r u guys ganna make every episode sub without troll by the way u guys r good subbers i dont mind if i have to w8 a week for sub the only way i get mad if it takes like 2 weeks every ep lolz but anyway its free

  28. ItAintEazy
    2:56 am on June 16th, 2008

    My only complaint with the troll sub is that it isn’t filled with swear words and flames against the tards like the “Fake Tears” trolls.

    And I have little sympathies for those who simply cannot practice a some patience, whether or not they are a sick child. A subbed episode being a few days late is not the friggin end of the world. I’d imagine how kids these days would survive in the world of Tomodachi fansubs acquired my mailed VHS tapes.

  29. 93
    4:44 am on June 16th, 2008

    “Lastly, we don’t want stuff here uploaded to Veoh because I think we shouldn’t support a site which bans over 80% of the world.”

    You’re a little biased aren’t you? xD

  30. maya
    10:10 am on June 16th, 2008

    well, i love your subs.. jus do your best like you always do..

  31. Darkthor
    8:09 pm on June 16th, 2008

    quote:
    “Lastly, we don’t want stuff here uploaded to Veoh because I think we shouldn’t support a site which bans over 80% of the world.”

    You’re a little biased aren’t you? xD

    —————
    …and you’re a damn idiot,aren’t you?
    VEOH is a crappy site …just because.No real explanation required if you aren;t a veoh CEO,is there?
    Why can;t they use youtube policy: removed upon request,or standard “user(not entire country) banned”?
    This concludes my point.Sorry for calling you an idiot if it wasn’t the case.If it was the case,go kiss a$$ to veoh.No sympathy for you here.

  32. the troll was epic, it would have been more epic if it was directly uploaded to veoh before they checked it

  33. haseo
    1:28 pm on June 18th, 2008

    you guys do an excellent job! keep up the awesome work! and i speak on behalf of all those people who are very grateful for all the time your team puts into all the shows you guys do. thanks.

    oh and for those complainers….don’t download if you’re gonna cry about bandwidth and such. if you gotta complain about something, complain about the shitty bandwidth you get or how much of an idiot you are not to notice it being troll sub. if its your first time for dl’ing troll subs disregard what i said but dont do it again. but as for the space, nope. dont go blaming it on others. thanks and uh..have a nice day. ^_^

  34. I didn’t watch it because I assumed it was some kind of troll thing, but really… I don’t see the big beef these people have. There are a lot of subbers who think we should bow and kiss their feet but you’re not being like that at all.

    I’d say you guys are being more than reasonable, and people wouldn’t get so pissed if they’d read what you had to say on the blog instead of only visiting to post comments when they’re being impatient about wait times. Seeing as how you provide DL’s, who’s the jerk wasting bandwidth — m33w, or the guys leeching the download and then bitching? seriously.

    either way, keep it up. you’re doing a good job with itazura, and most of us appreciate it.